I was testing on car lug nuts. I could torque the nuts to 120ftlb and get them off with both guns, but the DeWalt was slightly ahead by 5-10lbs. I was quite surprised. Ended up giving it to my dad to use at work, since it’s his only impact. I have the 450ftlb 1/2″ M18 impact to complement my M12, so I’m never strapped for torque 🙂 I actually can’t remember putting the M12 to a bolt it couldn’t take off in normal use, but then I haven’t stressed it too much yet.

But Milwaukee did drop the ball on this one. It looks and feels like a more solidly built piece of kit, yet the little yellow guy does better with less cells. Come on, Milwaukee…

I feel like the breakaway torque should be a bit higher as well on the hammer mechanism, as it starts hammering on slightly sticky bolts when it should drive them straight in no problem. It’s slightly disconcerting, makes you think the bolt is cross-threaded, but no, it just requires a slight bit of torque.

Overall I like the tool, but DeWalt has shown it can be done better, so I wish Milwaukee would step up. Why not give us the most power possible in the palm of our hands? It really is a powerful thing when you can pull off every job with one small tool.

The Dewalt, Milwaukee battle always gets heated. I am A DeWALT power tool guy but will take a Milwaukee Hand tool over a DeWALT hand tool any day. I also have some M12 tools that I love! I guess I am just A Tool Guy!

“This was just a simple fun test right out of the box to test one application.” —-I will agree with this.
“The current batteries are near identical for this test”—- this is false the xc battery would make for a near identical for this test. the standard battery is 1/2 of what the xc is. (you get what you pay for. the xc was not the standard battery in most set to make the sets more affordable and completive with other 12v systems, bottom line)
“Slap Red-Lithium”—-red lithium is not sum gimmick (to much tech to go into)
“Dewalt is launching a higher capacity battery for the 12v max line in April”—-GOOD I have both dewalt and Milwaukee 12v sets, i will benefit from this. (and so will every other consumer out there/dewalt set was a gift)
“Dewalt will be even further ahead on this one particular test.”—– i get it you are a dewalt guy, who dosent like it when some one says another brand is better.

“take it at face value and leave it at that.” —-no need for the attitude at the end it is after all a simple fun test

The current batteries are near identical for this test. Slap Red-Lithium on the 2451-22 and it still would not have kept up with the DCF813S2. Dewalt is launching a higher capacity battery for the 12v max line in April. So Dewalt will be even further ahead on this one particular test.

This was just a simple fun test right out of the box to test one application. That’s all, take it at face value and leave it at that.

I agree with you guys, there are many different variations of test we could do. We just wanted to simulate a stock out of the box situation. Milwaukee builds a good tool and the M12 line is huge!

I am so glad I didn’t write that one lol